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		<title>Audacity &#8211; the update</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, top marks for a speedy answer from the <a title="Using Audacity with Sharepoint" href="http://www.electricchalk.com/using-audacity-with-sharepoint/" target="_blank">previous post</a>. Here&#8217;s what they said&#8230;
&#8220;We have some disabled (because buggy and limited) development code that permitted upload of already exported files to a&#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, top marks for a speedy answer from the <a title="Using Audacity with Sharepoint" href="http://www.electricchalk.com/using-audacity-with-sharepoint/" target="_blank">previous post</a>. Here&#8217;s what they said&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>&#8220;</strong>We have some disabled (because buggy and limited) development code that permitted upload of already exported files to a FTP server. This was last available in 1.3.3 Beta:</em></p>
<p><em><a title="Link" href="http://downloads.sourceforge.net/audacity/audacity-win-1.3.3.zip" target="_blank">http://downloads.sourceforge.net/audacity/audacity-win-1.3.3.zip</a></em></p>
<p><em>We have longer term aims to improve this and allow direct exporting from the Audacity window to a server but this is not a current priority.</em></p>
<p><em>Also the FTP implementation has a number of potential security issues to be worked out. </em></p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t personally use SharePoint so I can&#8217;t advise you whether a FTP solution would work or something else is needed. Web searches are not all that helpful, but there is an article here about uploading files to Sharepoint:</em></p>
<p><em><a title="Link" href="http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/sharepoint-blog/windows-service-to-upload-documents-into-sharepoint-2007-14358" target="_blank">http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/sharepoint-blog/windows-service-to-upload-documents-into-sharepoint-2007-14358</a></em></p>
<p><em>Audacity projects require the .aup file and the _data folder to be present, so those would have to be put in a zip file. If the project includes imported files, they must be copied into the _data folder if they cannot be accessed locally or on the network:</em></p>
<p><em><a title="Link" href="http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sending_your_work_to_others     " target="_blank">http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sending_your_work_to_others     </a></em></p>
<p><em>If you can advise more about the Open Office feature to export to web folders, we can certainly log it as an Audacity feature request. </em></p>
<p><em>Thanks </em></p>
<p><em>Gale </em></p>
<p><em>Audacity Team<strong>&#8220; </strong></em></p></blockquote>
<div>I&#8217;ve got Aaron, our tame developer, to look into this a bit more but the thing I find amazing is that the speed and detail of the response is what I would hope to get from a commercial organisation (but frequently don&#8217;t!). And these people aren&#8217;t making any money out of me!</div>
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<div>More as it happens. You&#8217;ll be the first to know&#8230;</div>
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<div>&#8230;I promise&#8230;</div>
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		<title>Using Audacity with Sharepoint</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m shattered! 
We&#8217;re working with one of our partnerships schools on a project with some 11-year olds where they record a desert-island diary entry in <a title="Audacity Homepage" href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">Audacity</a> and create an mp3 out of it.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shattered! </p>
<p>We&#8217;re working with one of our partnerships schools on a project with some 11-year olds where they record a desert-island diary entry in <a title="Audacity Homepage" href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">Audacity</a> and create an mp3 out of it.</p>
<p>We want to be able to then put the mp3 onto the VLE but have hit a real snag.</p>
<p>Far from making the process of saving and sharing work easier, having the learning platform involved makes it harder.</p>
<p>The issue is that when you log into the VLE (MS Sharepoint in our case) where there is a document folder for saved work in some applications like <a title="Open Office Homepage" href="http://www.openoffice.org/" target="_blank">Open Office</a> and MS Office you can see these folders when you click on &#8220;Save Project As&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>The problem with Audacity is that it can&#8217;t see these web-based folders so at the moment we have to go through a lengthy process of saving the work in progress to either a document folder or the local machine and then copying and pasting into the web folder.</p>
<p>This is harder than it sounds when you have a reluctant, stroppy group of Y11&#8242;s and understandably the partner teachers are anxious about taking the project on themselves as it seems too complicated.</p>
<p>I have a dual plan of attack on this and I&#8217;ll keep you updated on the outcome.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to <a title="BETT 2009" href="http://www.bettshow.com/" target="_blank">BETT</a> this year so will accost the Microsoft stand for their advice but I&#8217;ve also emailed the Audacity developer team with the suggestion that they include the ability to sve to web folders in a future release.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how much value they developers put on finding a solution and whether a pleb like me can influence development of a piece of open-source software.</p>
<p><strong><em>NOTE:</em></strong><em> Here&#8217;s an <a title="Audacity update" href="http://www.electricchalk.com/audacity-the-update/" target="_blank">update&#8230;</a> (10th Dec 2008)</em></p>
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